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MoTGen (Motionless Thermal Generator)

A novel device to convert thermal energy into electrical energy, with high efficiency and no moving parts. Could be applied to any situation which currently uses a heat engine to create electrical energy, replacing conventional Stirling and steam engines

Team Concept

Our system proposes we use a team of MoTGens to tap energy from the naturally occurring heat flow found underwater at hydrothermal vents. Our chosen vent system is part of the Juan de Fuca Ridge, off the coast of Oregon and Washington. Each MoTGen would be positioned over a hydrothermal vent, and the temperature gradient from the 350+°C hydrothermal fluid on the hot side to the 2°C sea water on the cold side, will create a massive heat flux, of which, a certain percentage (less than 55% as dictated by the Carnot limit) will be converted to electric energy. Our model generator is made to fit a 1 m wide vent with average conditions, such as a 350°C temperature, and 3m/s flow. Such a vent would naturally transfer thermal energy from the hydrothermal fluid to the ocean water at 4.7 GW. We estimate that one MoTGen will be able to transport about 180 MW of that, which, even at a low 25% efficiency, would create 45 MW of electrical power. The whole operation would lower the temperature of the outbound hydrothermal fluid by 13°C. To carry all this electrical power back to where it can be used on land, we must use a massive underwater power line. While challenging and costly, this is not unprecedented- similar projects are planned in Europe, including NorNed, a line to transfer at least 700 MW of electrical power from Norway to the Netherlands at 450 kV. In our setup, one such power line would service a series of generators by following the fault line. In our project proposal, we assume a team of 150 model-sized MoTGens will be used, even though in reality the MoTGens used would probably be smaller, as there is a greater quantity of smaller vents.

The advantage of our system over more common land-based systems is that it provides renewable energy at a large level. Many consumer level products such as residential solar panels are good energy saving devices and could help alleviate some power needs, but overall are comparable in output to a gas powered backup generator, and would not work as large scale energy providers. Much of the energy circulated in the grid is used in the commercial and industrial sectors, not in the residential sector. A large part of the industrial and commercial sectors operates nonstop 24 hours a day, greatly limiting the usability of solar and wind energy, as neither provide constant power output. Our hydrothermal energy system would be able to provide large amounts of base-load power for a very cheap price, as it would require no routine maintenance or materials once installed. In terms of energy production, one MoTGen team would provide the same amount of energy as about 2 or 3 nuclear power plants, but without the radiation hazard.

One of the problems with our system is its location- the hydrothermal vents are about 200 miles away from the coast and 2.2 km underwater, which makes maintenance expeditions extremely expensive. For this reason, the machine has no moving parts whatsoever, and an indescribably rugged design. After installation, the generators will not require any kind of scheduled maintenance.

Our initial, gross estimates (more detailed estimates will be known after Phase A is completed) place the construction and installation of each MoTGen at about $2 million. The power line would cost about $850 million, meaning our model team of 150 MoTGens and a power line would cost $1.15 billion. Due to the virtually nil maintenance costs, after the startup costs, the system would just produce energy. Selling the electricity at 7cents per kWh (US average for industrial use in 2008), the team of MoTGens would produce $345 million per month, enough to pay off startup costs in 3 to 4 months.

Team Description

Two seniors from Cinco Ranch High School who are dedicated to discovering the mathematical mechanisms behind physics and then applying it to the world in a useful way. Combined, they bring knowledge in Chemistry, Thermodynamics, Differential Equations, Tensor Equations, Electrical Engineering, Acoustics, Computer Science, and Physics in general to their team.

Members

Daniel Asturias

Isaac Harwell

Advisor

Dr. Christy Esmahan

Cinco Ranch High School

23440 Cinco Ranch Blvd.
Katy
Texas 77494

Development Plan


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Overview of Plan:
We will develop the mathematical models governing the machine in order to optimize the design and perform experiments on key elements. There are two models that must be developed: one describing the heat transfer, and one describing the extraction element

Total Cost of the Plan:
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Steven Hames

Hi, I really like your idea and was researching the feasibility of it and came upon a potential issue. The Normed cable transmits electricity at 450kV DC. How would the MoTGEN be able to create such high voltages?

Mary Z

http://www.omgimages.net/img/1555/71609.png :) hope this reaches you guys before your presentation! we're all rooting for you guys back in katy ^-^

Robert Shaw

Way to go guys. You make Katy ISD proud.

Chris Crockett

Very impressive, gentlemen! I am very proud of you and your coach/sponsor. Keep up the good work, and good luck!

Joshua Neubert

Could you describe the CAD image you have posted for us? Its great to see these details, would love to learn more about what it is showing.

Harwell Asturias Labs

In response to Mr. Witlock's question, we have made available an initial rendering showing the outside of the MoTGen. We will post more detailed pictures and possibly a view of the inside at a later time.

Joe Witlock

Hey guys, Can you post some pictures (any CAD drawings maybe?) I want to visualize what you are doing. Thanks!

Brooke Owens

Good job with going to such level of detail in your descriptions and videos. It's evident that you have invested much into this project. Don't forget to have fun with it :). That's important too and can help you connect with your audience.

Phillip Drilling

Very informative, well thought out, I think Robert Ballard would be interested.

Jessil Joseph

Excellent idea, must keep in mind the cost and the eco system.

Lidia Martinez

Isaac, After speaking with you today in class I am fascinated by your team's idea. I wish you both the very best and look forward to reading more about the MOTGEN.

maria caetano

Daniel good luck with your project love from Maria and João Caetano

Helen Eriksen

Hi guys -- We are so happy to see a team from our very own Cinco Ranch High School Make it so far. I am writing about you in my Houston Chronicle - Inside Katy blog! http://blogs.chron.com/insidekaty/archives/2009/02/katy_students_s_7.html

Annie Pally

Guys, I've got to hand it to you. This sounds so cool. I'm so glad that you to finally have something to challenege yourselves!

Mary Z

Good luck you guys! I'll be rooting for you all the way >w<

unai idarraga

Oso lan ona Dani!Buen trabajo Dani!!Nice work Dani!! Good luck for both!

Jon Palomero

Good luck Daniel and Isaac from Basque Country. It is a great idea. Keep working hard.

mark keeling

Like several others before me have noted, the possible environmental/ecosystem issue with the change is temps and the other systems locations world wide. These may be the 2 primary issues to making this work. The environmental/ecosystem issue could be big in that it could hold up movement for years. The concept is excellent and cost/payback seems in line. Very interested to see where this goes!

Mark Dong

Good luck!

Virginia Aycock

You should both be so proud. Good luck!

jorge mariscal

gran forma de obtener energia dani...

Lisa Stockwell

Fascinating work. You mention one vent system off the NW coast. It would be interesting to know where other systems exist and the generation capacity of this kind of system worldwide. Good luck with this project!

Harwell Asturias Labs

I believe there has been a misunderstanding. The 13 degree drop is in the hydrothermal fluid- instead of exiting at 350 degrees C, we calculate it will exit at around 337 degrees C. Upon exiting, it naturally cools quickly to a much lower temperature as it moves away from the vent, eventually settling at around 2 degrees, the temperature of the rest of the water.

Amyna Dosani

I think the idea is absolutely phenomenal! You two are my favorite geniuses! I hope you win because you definitely deserve it. Great job!

Brendan O'Connell

I agree with Mr. Deasey,, the 13 degree tempurature increase could throw off many ecosystems thriving near underwatere vents. In many places a six degree heat up is enough to bleach most of the coral.

Joseba López de Ocáriz

Good luck guys!!! Suerte Dan, desde España de parte del amigo de Pablo

Ethan Brister

Sounds iteresting from what youve told me. Good luck on your invention.

Steven Qi

Great idea. Great investment return analysis. Looking forward to seeing a picture of the device

Matt Deasey

Hey Guys, Seems like a great way to take advantage of a constant, currently untapped resource. Low maintanence costs and such a quick return on initial investment are great. My only question relates to the potential impacts of the 13 degree decrease in water temperature. Are there any studies out there relating to the effects of temperature shifts below the thermocline? Otherwise the idea is awesome, well done!

Debbie Detke

Good Luck!!!

Ralph Gardner

Good luck to your team.

Barbara Chicago

Good Luck Guys!!!!!!!!!

Marino Segura

keep working with this great idea!! Congratulations.

John Hyatt

Are you already evaluating infrastructure and technology developed for offshore oil to support your development? Energy complanies should be interested in producing energy regardless of form, and re-using their existing technology and asset base would seem a natural direction worth factoring into your work. Best of luck guys!

Carol-Anne Schulman

Congratulations on this amazing accomplishment.

Limor Oren

Great Job, Keep it up!!!!

Piyush Shah

Great idea!! Good luck.

Brian Finnegan

Nice work, 45MW of renewable energy, no GHG, low maintenance with a 4 month payback.

Solomon Oji

Goodluck guys, brilliant project :)

Bill Muldoon

Wish you best guys!

Nancy Conrad

This sounds super interesting and well thought out. I am looking forward to seeing your team at NASA Ames. Good luck

Annelize Victor

Brilliant! Good luck guys

Lucy & Manny Pingo

WELL DONE!!! on such a brilliant invention!!! Good Luck!!!

Hank Harrity

Seems to be a better idea than other "alternative" given the 24 hour continuous supply. Given the $Billions that have been already allocated for the "wind farming" in Texas, the price tag also seems reasonable. Sounds like the biggest challenge is praticality for maintaining and location - good luck!

Luis Caetano

What a GREAT idea ...good luck!!

Ashok Rao

Excellent idea. Good luck.


 

 

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Preparations for Summit

2009-03-31 20:25:30

Our presentation is complete, and we are practicing ceaselessly. We gave a presentation at our school, and received many great questions and suggestions from our teachers and friends alike. The…

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Question about CAD image

2009-03-19 14:44:51

Mr. Neubert asked us to describe the CAD image of our MoTGEN. Coincidentally, I was working on a description of the MoTGen for the final presentation when I saw this…

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Progress on Presentations

2009-03-12 20:19:13

After receiving many questions as to where the image was, we decided to link it here to help out. Enjoy.

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Preliminary external view of the MoTGen Wrapping up some math
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